This allows a great deal of flexibility in inserting vowels, making words pronouncable, or when using qabbala analytically, allows alternative readings. There are other difficulties with his treatment of vowels - in general, vowels are meaningful/effective only when they have a non-zero numeric value. He also gives the impression that single letters have akashic effects, two-letter combinations have mental effects, and so on - this is not the case, the domain of effects depends only on intended meaning / the plane one 'sends' the letter to. Bardon leaves the student with the impression that the organ attributions are important in using the letters, whereas they can be ignored after the initiation he gives. How letters combine, how this differs with different orders of the same letters and different planes of intention given to the letters is left for the student to figure out by experiment. This is the essence of its power, and unless one can truly experience the whole gestalt of these together for a given letter, the system will not work.ĭespite my long study of KTQ, or rather because of it, I feel I should mention it has some real shortcomings: firstly, the doctrine of the elements is fundamentally confused in several ways, and secondly, the system is not a language: there is no syntax or grammar as such. One essential point that is seldom mentioned about KTQ is that it trains the student to experience consistent patterns of synesthesia - associations of meaning with letter, number, color sound and feeling. This post, though long, distills most of Bardon's book into its essential points.

Keep the conversation focused on magick.įranz Bardon's quabbalah is one of the most coherent magical systems, but is unfortunately little studied due to its author’s immense prolixity and manner of presentation. Posts that only share personal experiences without furthering discussion or that are overly long and detailed will be removed. While sharing your personal experience is welcome when it serves as part of a greater discussion, this subreddit is not your blog. You may find a helpline at (US only) or (both international). Since this subreddit is not an appropriate platform to help you or your loved ones with these problems or to establish a patient-doctor relationship we ask you to refer to a medical professional, psychotherapist or a national emergency helpline for assistance. No Posts Seeking Help with Mental Health.

In general, don't start your research into a subject by asking here. This includes spell-begging, interpretation/identification posts, beginner questions, book recommendations, etc. Magick requires a high level of personal commitment, engagement and effort. Self-promotional links to discord, youtube, facebook, patreon, shops, blogs and the like will be removed. Let's Stay on TopicĪll posts to this community are intended to help increase skills and knowledge. Likewise, don’t limit the approaches of others through calling out “closed practices” or otherwise seek to impose cultural or moral boundaries on how other people choose to practice. Your skepticism, like your belief, is your own. Discuss the differences in your approach, but don’t deny the validity of other paths. Respect that others may have different beliefs and viewpoints. This is a discussion sub, don't forget that you're talking to a human. Hostility is always unwarranted and will not be tolerated. While beginners are welcome here, this is not a beginners subreddit (see Rule 4). This is a community that practices, researches, discusses and embodies various esoteric paths and philosophies. This subreddit is dedicated to Magick in all its forms.

Franz bardon reddit